Have you got one – will you get one – Electric Vehicles.

[Niggers are apes]

the infrastructure is not there in the US. the politicians have forgot, that electrical has to be beefed up starting at the generator source all they way to your house. that;s bigger transformers and power lines between them. And then you need a bigger service entrance to your house, and a place to put the charger, a new circuit to the charger, and the charger has to have adequate ventilation.

As far as I am concerned EV is only a short range vehicle. it can't go the distance, you have to go out of your way to find a charger. And then it does not want to go in cold weather. That's most batteries in cold weather.

Consider this. most batteries only have a charge/discharge cycle of 500 or so times. So be prepaired to replace them in a couple years.

You're talking out your ass. I've installed dozens of EV chargers for customers and never seen a home that needed a service upgrade.

 

[Niggers are apes]

Electrical conversion 736 watts = 1 horsepower. I need to go find what size is the average electrical motor in the EVs and I'll come back to the thread and show comparisons to gas vehicle.

I know the elder V8 muscle cars use to generate 200-300 horse power at the rear wheels on dynamometer. Thats about 150KW for 200 HP, and 224KW for 300 HP. The EV just does not have any power close to this, when measured at the wheels.

I'll save you the trouble. EV's have huge horsepower. This is because they come with huge batteries and the motors are oversized in order to be capable of regenerative braking.

 

[KingKong]

I'll think about it.

 

[NiggerGPT]

=Niggers are apes said= ""You're talking out your ass. I've installed dozens of EV chargers for customers and never seen a home that needed a service upgrade.""

You can add a new breaker and wire something up - but that does not mean its properly wired. We have an national electric code just for that reason. Go look at older homes and older city apartment complexes and you will see inadequate power wiring. Being that EVs are new, your customers are probably wealthy and have new homes, that are up to standards. Think about the masses.

""I'll save you the trouble. EV's have huge horsepower. This is because they come with huge batteries and the motors are oversized in order to be capable of regenerative braking.""

Measure the horsepower at the wheels after the losses of the transmission and other electrical loads not related to the drive train. If they have so much power, tell me why they can't climb hills and mountains.

How much power does the battery have when its below freezing ? Welcome to North Dakota or Alaska.

Regenerative braking is just removing the power source from a motor and applying a load. Its a way to stop a motor fast. In the EVs case, they are using the motor as a generator to feed power back into the batteries. A good motor may not be an efficient generator. A good generator may not be an efficient motor. Each one is optimized for one application or the other. If you perform both, you have compromises.

You may consider studying the diesel electric locomotives. They use an electrical motor for the high torque to be able to get a heavily loaded train to move and up to speed. And they use the regenerative braking to slow the train down. But they don’t use batteries for the power source – as its inadequate to get the job down. They are using a diesel motor to drive a generator that powers the motors. And they use several motors directly driving the wheels.

Food for though. I enjoy talking out of my ass. I like to fart, a lot. It makes me feel good. Lets all go eat some beans.

 

[DePlasmatikon Gibs]

I couldn't care less about the power of the engines. The engines are not the problem, it's the batteries. They're heavy, poisonous, expensive, non-durable, non-green and unsafe. This is why all proven electric vehicles larger than Shatqueefa's Walmart scooter run on electric grids. Since these are not available for cars, they need to find an entirely different fuel source like hydrogen to power e-cars. I don't mind electric drives, but batteries will never do. I will never buy a battery powered vehicle. Batteries are for toys.

 

[cAn]

Here's a photo of a lithium mine. I can't see how they can say they're environmentally friendly.

 

[Count Niggula]

EV’s are like any new technology. There are technophiles who absolutely MUST have the newest, coolest thing. Know what I call these people? “Lab rats” or “guinea pigs” - they are working out all the problems with these new devices for the rest of society.

Once these problems are all worked out and the best possible device is on the market, technophobes like me will buy in.

 

[DePlasmatikon Gibs]

Did you know that lil' third world shitskins drop out of school to work as child slaves in the lithium mines of Africa?

https://bulawayo24.com/index-id-news-sc-local-byo-240986.html

How come CNN/BBC/MSNBC/HuffPost/Guardian etc. etc. etc. never report on those poor potential Nobel Prize winning leGenius Wisdoms getting no education and working themselves to death for EV batteries?

Because EVs are the globalists' darlings, a political stunt, and an important pillar of the Climate Change scam. The longterm goal is to make transport and travel unaffordable/illegal for average people and force them into 15-minute cities. Expensive e-cars, climate taxes, Covid lockdowns, etc.

 

[Niggers are apes]

You can add a new breaker and wire something up - but that does not mean its properly wired. We have an national electric code just for that reason. Go look at older homes and older city apartment complexes and you will see inadequate power wiring. Being that EVs are new, your customers are probably wealthy and have new homes, that are up to standards. Think about the masses.

Nonsense. Most older homes have already been upgraded to 200 amp service panels so they can handle modern conveniences like electric clothes dryers and air conditioning.

The real reason car manufacturers are scaling back EV production is we're in a massive recession and on the brink of global war with Russia.

Measure the horsepower at the wheels after the losses of the transmission and other electrical loads not related to the drive train. If they have so much power, tell me why they can't climb hills and mountains.

More nonsense. EV's have no trouble climbing hills and the power loss of the "transmission" is much less than ICE vehicles.

The limiting factor is battery size. If an EV has a small battery with limited range then that will also limit the amount of power reaching the motor. If you engineer a perfect storm of bad conditions for example driving to the Yukon with a heavy trailer in sub zero temperatures then your EV will not perform as well as it would on a nice day.

 

[Niggers are apes]

Did you know that lil' third world shitskins drop out of school to work as child slaves in the lithium mines of Africa?

This is a good thing. All niggers should be forced to drop out of school and put to work in lithium mines so white men can drive electric automobiles.

 

[Niggers are apes]

Here's a photo of a lithium mine. I can't see how they can say they're environmentally friendly.
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Perfection is the enemy of good.

 

[Uhtred Lothbrok]

EVs = fake & gay. So my answer is a hard NO.

 

[NiggerGPT]

Think about economics. They get rid of gasoline. Its all electric. The electricty will be in more demand, they will be charging more for electricity. That's demand versus supply.

 

[New Minority]

I see some electric vehicle manufactures are all ready scaling back on the production of electric vehicles ….

Mercedes-Benz scales back on electric vehicle (EV) expectations, planning updates for combustion engines into the next decade. This move reflects a slower-than-anticipated shift to EVs.



So have you got an electric vehicle or consider ever buying one .



LG


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No I have a condition called Self Respect.

 

[Uhtred Lothbrok]

Here's a photo of a lithium mine. I can't see how they can say they're environmentally friendly.
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I'm surprised that leftists/liberals push the EVs so much. Have you seen the videos of niggers working in the African cobalt mines? In flip-flops, LOL! A lot of the mining associated with electronics products is pretty corrupt and there are no human rights protections for labor. FWIW, I won't be replacing my gas powered mower, blower, trimmer, or pressure washer with electrical either. Fuck that!

 

[NiggerGPT]

Nonsense. Most older homes have already been upgraded to 200 amp service panels so they can handle modern conveniences like electric clothes dryers and air conditioning.

The real reason car manufacturers are scaling back EV production is we're in a massive recession and on the brink of global war with Russia.



More nonsense. EV's have no trouble climbing hills and the power loss of the "transmission" is much less than ICE vehicles.

The limiting factor is battery size. If an EV has a small battery with limited range then that will also limit the amount of power reaching the motor. If you engineer a perfect storm of bad conditions for example driving to the Yukon with a heavy trailer in sub zero temperatures then your EV will not perform as well as it would on a nice day.

A lot of two bedroom homes only have 100A panels. There are a lot of homes still running on 1970 and less wiring on 100A panels. elder farms home with even less. These homes did not have the power loads we have today. Like I said before , your clients have modern homes in the suburbs. 200A became the minimum standard in the late 70s or early 1980s. Bear in mind if you have a 200A panel, you are not suppose to draw over 160A continous. You add up a washer, a dryer, a stove, a microwave, hot water heater, and a air conditioner/heat pump, and other incidental loads running during your dinner, you might find you are on the border or exceeded safety requirements.

from what I know about the EV charging systems the 120V units for Telsa requires a 20A circuit. And this circuit, it takes 4 days to fully recharge. Telsa's data. Telsa shows their 240A chargers drawing up to 80A running on 240V - thats takes a 100A rated 240V circuit. If you buy the biggest charger (80A), it will take 6 hours to recharge. Smallest charger is 20A and Telsa shows 30 hours to recharge.

Want a super charger ? 480V at 300A or 240V at 600A, not your normal home circuit. 40 minutes to recharge.

Lets talk about the city. Are they going to tear up the sidewalks and install chargers for the folks that park cars on streets ? Lot of places like this. How about high density places like parking buildings. Believe they will have to add electrical capacity.

The batteries are the problems. What good is a powerful electrical engine if you can't power it?. Don't bury you head in the sand.

I have been behind EVs were we have 13 degree grades. They hold everybody up for miles...

I'm not going to argue this anymore. We can agree to disagree.

 

[cAn]

I'm surprised that leftists/liberals push the EVs so much. Have you seen the videos of niggers working in the African cobalt mines? In flip-flops, LOL! A lot of the mining associated with electronics products is pretty corrupt and there are no human rights protections for labor. FWIW, I won't be replacing my gas powered mower, blower, trimmer, or pressure washer with electrical either. Fuck that!

I can only assume they (leftists/liberals) simply don't know, and/or refuse to do any research that will invalidate their programming. Their ignorance is their bliss.

 

[Niggers are apes]

I'm surprised that leftists/liberals push the EVs so much. Have you seen the videos of niggers working in the African cobalt mines? In flip-flops, LOL! A lot of the mining associated with electronics products is pretty corrupt and there are no human rights protections for labor. FWIW, I won't be replacing my gas powered mower, blower, trimmer, or pressure washer with electrical either. Fuck that!

Niggers working in cobalt mines is a good thing. Africa has an abundance of mineral resources that white men need to create modern conveniences like smartphones and electric cars. Nature in her infinite wisdom populated the subcontinent with apeniggers so they could dig that stuff up for us.

A lot of two bedroom homes only have 100A panels. There are a lot of homes still running on 1970 and less wiring on 100A panels. elder farms home with even less. These homes did not have the power loads we have today. Like I said before , your clients have modern homes in the suburbs. 200A became the minimum standard in the late 70s or early 1980s.

Basically your argument is that electric vehicles don't work because some people live in old homes and haven't upgraded their electrical panels. My counterargument is that people who can't afford to upgrade their electric panel to install central air and other modern conveniences probably can't afford a new car anyway, gas or electric. So your argument is moot.

Studies show that most people who purchase electric vehicles are happy with them and have no intention of going back to gasoline powered vehicles. But you have every right to be happy with your gasoline or diesel powered vehicle and keep it until it breaks down. I suspect in a few years there will be an abundance of used electric vehicles as drivers upgrade to faster charging models. So the fear tactic that driving will become unaffordable for the masses is overblown.

The rising cost of living is a legitimate concern. But this is mainly due to the face we haven't figured out how to redistribute wealth. Workers often oppose new technology as they fear losing their jobs and unemployment pushes wages down. This is not the fault of technology but the fact that workers haven't yet figured out how to modernize their political system and secure their right to a living wage.

Bear in mind if you have a 200A panel, you are not suppose to draw over 160A continous. You add up a washer, a dryer, a stove, a microwave, hot water heater, and a air conditioner/heat pump, and other incidental loads running during your dinner, you might find you are on the border or exceeded safety requirements.

That's why the panel has a main breaker in the event I forget not to plug everything in at once. If you live in a large home with central air and unusually high power demands there's also the option of installing a second service. I see this quite often in larger and more luxurious homes. People who have hot tubs, saunas, in ground pools and other heavy loads one 200 amp panel isn't enough they have two. It's not a big deal. Every day old homes are torn down and replaced with duplexes and triplexes. This is called filling in and the grid has no trouble delivering the extra power.

 

[Uhtred Lothbrok]

"Niggers working in cobalt mines is a good thing. Africa has an abundance of mineral resources that white men need to create modern conveniences like smartphones and electric cars. Nature in her infinite wisdom populated the subcontinent with apeniggers so they could dig that stuff up for us."

Sure. I'm fine with the niggers working the mines. I was speaking to the hypocracy of the left with the way they push EVs but seemed unconcerned about how they're sourced. Leftists are supposed to be all about human rights, right? I know you like EVs. Great! Have fun driving one. They're not for me. It's all good. Each to his own, right?

 

[Black Gorilla Jr.]

that hyndai ev that has the solar panel roof looks pretty neat.. also the ford mach e looks fun.. the majority cannot afford theae things plus have no garage to park them in…

But thats the point.. the Shysters at the top want the working class broke, to own nothing and be happy… they are going to keep pushing ev’s..