Shakespeare was boloney

[Euro-Mongoloid Ape Hunter]

I remember writing a Shakespeare essay back in my sophomore year of college. Based on my research, I personally believe that it is very improbable he wrote some of his plays. I'm not going to post my entire paper, but here were a few main points.

- In Hamlet, he described a comet in great detail that he was not around to witness when it occurred. Only someone alive at the time could of described it in such detail

- Shakespeare could of easily been a pen name. Many of his plays contained a lot of homosexual innuendos. At the time the plays were written, this was a taboo subject and could of had somebody drawn and quartered.

- Only the elites of the time would of had the knowledge of foreign languages and customs that the plays demonstrated. Shakespeare may of been an actor in one of the plays if anything, but it is improbable that he wrote them.

-Much of the evidence points to Earl Edward Stratham de Vere as the writer. One of Shakespeares plays mentions an inn and a coat of arms that described the Earl's family coat of arms.

[Roaring Angel]

There are rumors that Sir Francis Bacon and Sir Walter Raliegh may have written Some shakespearean plays. As for the homosexual innuendos, I don't recall any and I read most of his comedies, tragedies and several of the historical plays. Bear in mind that the roles of women were played by men during Shakespeare's life (the late Renaissance and early Baroque era).

E.G. In Julius Caesar, Brutus mentions he loves Caesar well. This was a gesture of friendship and respect, not homosexuality. Remember, what is considered to be gay now, had a different connotation 400 years ago.
In his play, Richard II, King Richard is depicted as a foppish priss, even though there isn't any record of homosexuality.

[gorilla poacher]

I've been forced to watch some movies based on shakspear plays. Was it Othello about that evil negro or did he use that theme more than once? His plays are quaint and frequently EVERYONE gets killed in the end, but I never went wild over them like some people did.

[Roaring Angel]

Shakespeare really pegged the nature of the nigger beast in Othello. A story of a jealous nigger who suspects it's white love interest betraying him is parallel to the OJ Chimpson deal.

[gorilla poacher]

astute observation.

[CTYT]

Shakespeare is probably one of the most overrated figures in history. I was never really one to much appreciate his "talent", if you want to call it that. Was he good for his time period? Yes, probably pretty epic. Today? Not so much.

[Euro-Mongoloid Ape Hunter]

Two of my favorites - :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-yZNMWFqvM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdfxR1jWLJ0

[AntiNig]

I've been forced to watch some movies based on shakspear plays. Was it Othello about that evil negro or did he use that theme more than once? His plays are quaint and frequently EVERYONE gets killed in the end, but I never went wild over them like some people did.


Shakespeare really pegged the nature of the nigger beast in Othello. A story of a jealous nigger who suspects it's white love interest betraying him is parallel to the OJ Chimpson deal.

To dispel some Hollywood bullshit, Othello was not a nigger.


The character is North African/Middle Eastern, not Sub-human/Sub-Sarahan African.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ef/MoorishAmbassador_to_Elizabeth_I.jpg

[Roaring Angel]

To dispel some Hollywood bullshit, Othello was not a nigger.


The character is North African/Middle Eastern, not Sub-human/Sub-Sarahan African.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ef/MoorishAmbassador_to_Elizabeth_I.jpg

You are correct, sir! Othello was referred to as "The Moor". The moors came from the Arab part of NW Africa and settled in Spain around 800 AD.

Olivier did a Hollywood version of Othello, and he wore black face, frizzed his hair, and especially nigged up the acting a bit.
I guess Niggerloving in Hollywood dates back before the 1950's.

[gorilla poacher]

Yes, that PC shit was rife in Hollyweird even in the 50's. I remember watching the movie "Sparticus" and was taken aback by how they portrayed some of the Roman matrons as lusting after the negro gladiators.
And yes, it is a common mistake to assume when people are talking about "Africans" that they are talking about negroes. When the Romans mentioned africans they were referring to North Africans who were more akin to Sicilians.

[NiggerHater]

I remember writing a Shakespeare essay back in my sophomore year of college. Based on my research, I personally believe that it is very improbable he wrote some of his plays. I'm not going to post my entire paper, but here were a few main points.

- In Hamlet, he described a comet in great detail that he was not around to witness when it occurred. Only someone alive at the time could of described it in such detail

- Shakespeare could of easily been a pen name. Many of his plays contained a lot of homosexual innuendos. At the time the plays were written, this was a taboo subject and could of had somebody drawn and quartered.

- Only the elites of the time would of had the knowledge of foreign languages and customs that the plays demonstrated. Shakespeare may of been an actor in one of the plays if anything, but it is improbable that he wrote them.

-Much of the evidence points to Earl Edward Stratham de Vere as the writer. One of Shakespeares plays mentions an inn and a coat of arms that described the Earl's family coat of arms.



Lets try this stance :


In Hamlet, he described a comet in great detail that he was not around to witness when it occurred. Only someone alive at the time could of described it in such detail

Astrology played a big part of daily Elizabethan life in England, in the sense that many people relied on comets, stars etc as portents and which influenced their natural existence and events. Indeed, Shakespeare used astrology and alchemy in many of his plays.



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Shakespeare could of easily been a pen name. Shakespeare may of been an actor in one of the plays if anything, but it is improbable that he wrote them.Much of the evidence points to Earl Edward Stratham de Vere as the writer.

Possible but unlikely. Remember people who write books challenging authenticity make lots of money. However de Vere was an Elizabethan courtier aristocrat, and courtiers were forbidden to indulge in such vulgar play writing. Of course, he could have used a pseudonym…


Many of his plays contained a lot of homosexual innuendos. At the time the plays were written, this was a taboo subject and could of had somebody drawn and quartered.

Medieval Christianity and homosexuality conflicted with religious principles of the era. In many of his plays, he used strong male relationships in preference to female ones, especially in Henry V. Such male bonding can be construed in any way by any person.


Only the elites of the time would of had the knowledge of foreign languages and customs that the plays demonstrated.

Elizabethan England was in an age of exploration (Spanish Armarda, foreign wars with French) and Renaissance so rudimentary languages crept in. Shakespeare used this in his stage plays, written for an audience mainly comprising craftsmen and merchants. He also used prose and soliloquies (my personal favorite in his plays) to exaggerate his points he wanted to convey – which was the custom of everyday speech at the time.

[KFCMan167]

i believe there is a movie coming out about shakespeare that it was all bullshit and he didn't wrote any of his plays
its coming out this later this year i think
interesting stuff

[Ted]

I remember writing a Shakespeare essay back in my sophomore year of college. Based on my research, I personally believe that it is very improbable he wrote some of his plays. I'm not going to post my entire paper, but here were a few main points.

- In Hamlet, he described a comet in great detail that he was not around to witness when it occurred. Only someone alive at the time could of described it in such detail

- Shakespeare could of easily been a pen name. Many of his plays contained a lot of homosexual innuendos. At the time the plays were written, this was a taboo subject and could of had somebody drawn and quartered.

- Only the elites of the time would of had the knowledge of foreign languages and customs that the plays demonstrated. Shakespeare may of been an actor in one of the plays if anything, but it is improbable that he wrote them.

-Much of the evidence points to Earl Edward Stratham de Vere as the writer. One of Shakespeares plays mentions an inn and a coat of arms that described the Earl's family coat of arms.

Could HAVE, not could OF. May HAVE, not may OF. I hate to be so critical but a college grad should probably know these things especially in an otherwise well written informative piece such as this. :coffee

[Euro-Mongoloid Ape Hunter]

Could HAVE, not could OF. May HAVE, not may OF. I hate to be so critical but a college grad should probably know these things especially in an otherwise well written informative piece such as this. :coffee

I'm sorry. I think I had a few when I posted this.

[Intolerant]

I'm sorry. I think I had a few when I posted this.

No need to apologize to Ted. He picks the raisins out of his oatmeal cookies. :lol

[Darth Sambo]

I'm having to read Hamlet for an English Lit class right now. What drives me insane is having to read the translation bullet points at the bottom of the page, to understand the true meaning of the lexicon. Although written for the Victorian English era, I can't understand how so many get wrapped up in the greatness of the works. To me, it seems like a lot of unnecessary & verbiose dialogue to get your point across. Much like today's nigger urban vernacular... what they say in about 15 words, your average human can say in 5. 'Get the fuck out, nigger' - translated by a nigger: 'I's be gettin' da fuck out, 'cause my black ass be pointed at by a Glock an' sheeyit by muddafukkin whitey'.

[RacerX]

But…the nigger on YouTube said that Shakespeare was a black guy?!!?

[Houser]

Guys, when you get in to Shakespeare, after a while the lights go on and you realize what a miracle his stuff is.The language is archaic, but with a little study of the vocabulary it rewards every minute you spend. If you're new to ol' Will, try watching one of the good film versions now on DVD. One of the best is "Twelfth Night" directed by Trevor Nunn a few years ago. He brings it up a couple of hundred years to the early 1800's. Much Ado About Nothing with Kenneth Branagh and Keanu Reeves is beautiful, too, even though Denzel Washington has a minor part. The language is verse, much of the meaning is in the rhythm so reading it on the page is much tougher.

My love for Shakespeare makes it impossible for me to tolerate even two minutes of cRap "music". It is the clearest example of the superiority of English culture over anything the turd world has produced up to this date. Shakespeare on his worst day is tons better than any of the celebrated black "artists" on the best day they ever had, and he's been dead since 1616.

I really wish more humans would celebrate our cultural richness. Neither Africa nor Detroit could ever have produced a fraction of W.S.'s art.

[Houser]

Darth, if you rent or buy the Kenneth Branagh film version of Hamlet on DVD the text will be so much clearer. It's a full text version, too, so you won't miss any test questions!

[Euro-Mongoloid Ape Hunter]

I'm having to read Hamlet for an English Lit class right now. What drives me insane is having to read the translation bullet points at the bottom of the page, to understand the true meaning of the lexicon. Although written for the Victorian English era, I can't understand how so many get wrapped up in the greatness of the works. To me, it seems like a lot of unnecessary & verbiose dialogue to get your point across. Much like today's nigger urban vernacular... what they say in about 15 words, your average human can say in 5. 'Get the fuck out, nigger' - translated by a nigger: 'I's be gettin' da fuck out, 'cause my black ass be pointed at by a Glock an' sheeyit by muddafukkin whitey'.

We were reading Macbeth back when I was a senior in high school. This website helped me get from a B up to an A-. Don't commit plagiarism on any assignments, because your teacher/professor will find out. Just use it as a guide. I recommend reading the play top to bottom on cliffnotes, then reading the book. It makes it so much easier, and it will all come to you when you're reading 17th century language.
http://www.cliffsnotes.com/study_guide/literature/Hamlet.id-121.html

[gorilla poacher]

Maybe some of the resistance to W.S. is due to the fact many of us were MADE to read it.
Actually we should be grateful they haven't gotten around to eliminating ALL the European authors from the cirriculem.
(sorry about my spelling)