Dune

[MortimerSnyde]

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[Kilth]

Loved all 6 books and the movie was best they could do. I actually loved the movie

[Maleficarum]

He who controls the spice, controls the universe!

I fucking hated Sting in that film though, what a fucking tool!

[Kradmelder]

I read two of the books.

I agree about Sting. I hate that guy because he and Phil Collins were all the so called 'rock' stations were playing around 85-86. They played him so much I call him Sting, Stang, and Stung. I never want to hear his voice again.

[NAACPtookmybabyaway]

I've only read the first book but it was awesome.

I never knew they made a film though

[SGT. SHLITZ]

The books were awesome and the movie was great. David Lynch directed it.

[Miss Ann]

I liked the movie Dune, I thought it was good entertainment.
The book wasn't too shabby either.

[highlandoutlaw]

I liked the books, the prequels written by kevin anderson and bryan herbert were awesome. As were the final novels by them. As for the movies, the lynch dune was ok, but the scifi channel's versions were truer to the novels

[NAACPtookmybabyaway]

Thing is I can't think of Heinlein without it bringing up images of the unbelievably shite hack-job the film of starship troopers was.

Take out all of the blistering critique of retarded militarism, neo-fascism, state propaganda and mind control and substitute in a few mongoloid catch phrases and wall to wall fight scenes and you have removed the whole point of the book

[Kradmelder]

I enjoyed the books. If I had time I would like to finish the series. I think I read book 1 and 3.
I think the "Dune" universe would be a misrable and horrible place to have to live. Unlike Tolkiens Middle Earth where I would rather be.

[RizzleMcDizzle]

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[SST]

I liked the original series of books, and have read a few of the new ones that are quite good as well. I loved the Lynch version of the movie, not a single nigger as I recall. niggers are afraid of Lynch because name be raciss and sheit.:dats

[Massa Charlie]

Liked the Herbert books, liked the first movie (uncut), although I agree it is not and should not be confused with "science fiction"... It aint. Frank Herbert was a fantasy writer. Period. With Dune, I think he totally immersed himself in the fantasy, went full retard with fantasy.

Regarding the Starship Troopers film, please remember that while Paul Verhoeven (Robocop) directed it, Starship Troopers was tainted with the Disney influence. For one thing, Disney had no grasp of CGI; and, for another thing, they always tended to fall back on these time-worn and predictable "Disney formulas" for success — high school sports, talking animals, pirates, etc. The modern Disney Company is capable of fucking up anything it touches, even Robert Heinlein, and Disney has never produced a decent space movie... Which seems really odd, given their colossal financial and creative resources. What? The Black Hole? Mission to Mars? Fuck, horrible shit.

:hnk

[Massa Charlie]

My favorite lines from Dune, when Paul Atreides first joins with Stilgar:

Paul: What do you call the frog shadow on the first moon?
Stilgar: We call that one, The Tiny Mountain Frog.
Paul: Eeew... I don't like that very much. Ummm. What do you call the mouse shadow on the second moon?
Stilgar: We call that one, Muad'Dib.
Paul: Could I be known as Paul Muad'Dib?
Stilgar: You are Paul Muad'Dib.
Paul: Thank God... Paul The Tiny Mountain Frog would sound so stupid.

....okay, I spiced up the dialogue a little.

:hnk

[Kradmelder]

Liked the Herbert books, liked the first movie (uncut), although I agree it is not and should not be confused with "science fiction"... It aint. Frank Herbert was a fantasy writer. Period. With Dune, I think he totally immersed himself in the fantasy, went full retard with fantasy.


Please explain the difference between Science Fiction and Fantasy?
Why do you consider Dune Fantasy instead of Science Fiction?
Why don't you like Fantasy?
Please enlighten me.
:nuffin

[SST]

To me fantasy is what might of been, and scifi is what could be. I think Herberts inclusion of futuristic ideals can be considered scifi (folding space) is actually something that theoretical physicists are looking into. I guess the creation of a new universe would fall into the fantasy genre. Anyway Dune was actually a story about Earth to me. They fight for melange, we fight for oil. They jihad, we jihad. Control, control, control. Great story no matter how you pigeonhole it.

[Massa Charlie]

Please explain the difference between Science Fiction and Fantasy? Why do you consider Dune Fantasy instead of Science Fiction? Why don't you like Fantasy? Please enlighten me. :nuffin

Never said I don't like fantasy. But Science Fiction is, as the name implies, fiction that is based on Science — it's a speculation on where existing Science might take us, for good or ill. Science Fiction, therefore, is believable and even inspiring.

You can see examples of actual Science Fiction in the works of Michael Crichton, to name just one author who is still churning the stuff out. Crichton bases his work on actual science, then takes it a couple of steps further: The Andromeda Strain, for instance, concerns an interplanetary probe that returns to Earth carrying a biologic contaminant, resulting in a lethal plague; The Terminal Man, for another, explores the consequences of electronic implants in the human brain; Jurassic Park popularized the notion of resurrecting extinct species by rebuilding their DNA in the laboratory.

In these and other works, Crichton backs up his sci-fi themes with known and accepted scientific principles and descriptions.

Likewise, the late Arthur C. Clarke postulated on scientific advances based on known physics and technology — Clarke first described the telecommunications satellite in such technical detail that it inspired the thing's actual manufacture and deployment. Clarke also foretold the creation of the space elevator, an incredible but scientifically sound transportation system that is being developed even as we speak.

Those are good examples of Science Fiction, deriving from Science itself.

Science Fantasy, on the other hand, has no basis in existing Science nor even in fringe Science. As most Science Fantasy deals with extended space travel, it's also called "Space Fantasy"... Star Wars, for example, is Space Fantasy. In spite of the sensational garbage you've heard, no actual Science went into nor came out of Star Trek — that series was just drama with flashing lights, more Space Fantasy. The Dune epic offered up no scientific revelations; on the contrary, Dune was more about mystical and spiritual ascension than it was about science. It was a high-tech Messiah story, more Space Fantasy.

I'm not opposed to fantasy, I just consider it a waste of bandwidth. With all the extraordinary shit unfolding around us in the real world, who the fuck needs to waste hours out of his life reading or watching somebody else's mental masturbation?

:hnk