Mein Kampf

[Odin88]

No, do not be alarmed. No anti-semitic rants are forthcoming! But having read the book at least a dozen times, it is shocking how relevant and even prophetic much of it is. The main body of the book is what led up to WW 1. Very political and almost hard to read unless you have a strong grasp of graduate-school level writing.

But aside from those passages that some find offensive, it is eerily applicable to todays political and social climate. Time and time again as I have read through it I had to stop and say "Wow.", because much of it is so relevant and in tune with the early 21st century that it may have been written last week, rather than 80 years ago.

Some may think it boring and dull to read about the political atmosphere of Europe from the 1890's to 1925, but honestly, history really does repeat itself and the book, if not respected because of it's author, is still a fascinating and dead-on analysis of sociology and the mass media. Nothing much changes it seems. I think that in order for us to understand the present and why things are so terribly fucked up, we must first have a firm grasp of the past.

Everything leads to something else. We have reached the present state of affairs due to the events of the past. A lot of folks here seem to have the same basic question: "What the fuck is going on and how did things get so messed up?" Study the past. We didn't just magically appear in the year 2008 with no past behind us. Read all you can by all the great thinkers.

Also, don't be afraid to question everything. Especially these days. Communism is anathema to me- I hate that ideology like I hate cancer or the plague- so I made myself study it and read the works of all of it's greatest proponents- Marx, Trotsky, Lenin, etc...

All through high school and especially college we are force fed one view- all others are shunned. Fuck that noise! Educate yourselves and study the past intensely. Never believe a word your government or the media tells you. They are all liars and have an agenda. The last thing the government wants is intelligent, well informed individuals who think for themselves. They want obedient workers- useful idiots in other words.

Start with the Greeks, like Plato. Read Spengler, Lane, The Federalist Papers, all of Jefferson's writings. Might is Right by Ragnar Redbeard,(may perhaps be Jack London's pen name) The best thing to do- Read the Communist Manifesto and then immediately read Mein Kampf, followed by the Federalist Papers by Jay, Hamilton and Madison.

Educate yourselves! A sharp and educated mind capable of critical thinking and independant thought is dangerous- and far more useful than any gun or sword.

[blackmetal84]

I have a copy and have read Mein Kampf a few times myself. It is a very informative book. However his writing style was not to my liking. He wrote it almost like he was writing a tabloid piece, rambling sentences and over sensationalism. Very strange sentence structure.

[Kradmelder]

http://dl.audiobooksforfree.com/cgi-bin/list?dl=0100031600488125076&un
Here is a link to a free audio book version on "Mein Kampf" by Adolf Hitler.
Listen, learn, enjoy. 88!

http://dl.audiobooksforfree.com/cgi-bin/list?dl=0100031600488125076&un

[niggerphobe]

Thanks odin for being the icebreaker on many subjects that only one, who is openly a member of the NSM, could get away with no reprisals (i.e. "you nazi" because you are one and the simple mined insult has no effect) anyway it should be pointed out that "the man" himself would have been a member and a meaning-full contributer for example from his work:

"It does not dawn upon this depraved bourgeois world that here one has actually to do with a sin against all reason; that it is a criminal absurdity to train a born half-ape until one believes a lawyer has been made of him, while millions of members of the highest culture race have to remain in entirely unworthy positions; that it is a sin against the will of the eternal Creator to let hundreds and hundreds of thousands of His most talented beings degenerate in the proletarian swamp of today, while Hottentots and Zulu Kafirs are trained for intellectual vocations. For it is training, exactly as that of the poodle, and not a scientific 'education'."

"In the most critical hour of our people, in the moment when we, practically abandoned by all the world, made defenseless by our own fault, have to watch France setting out to occupy new territories, while African negroes rape our women and children,..."

"The black disgrace works havoc on the Rhine. Women, girls and children pay for the bestial negroes' lust with their death. An uninterrupted stream of poison and disease flows into the blood of our people. Moroccan syphilis drives thousands of victims towards a cruel death..."

"All great cultures of the past perished only because the originally creative race died off through blood poisoning."

"...and one seeks compensation by success with Hottentots and Zulu Kafirs, with the blessing of the Church. While our European peoples, the Lord be praised and thanked, fall into a state of physical and moral leprosy, the pious missionary wanders to Central Africa and establishes negro missions, till there our 'higher culture' will have turned healthy, though primitive and inferior, human children into a foul breed of bastards."

"What we see before us of human culture today, the results of art, science, and techniques, is almost exclusively the creative produce of the Aryan....Without this possibility of utilizing inferior men, the Aryan would never have been able to take the first steps towards his later culture; exactly as, without the help of various suitable animals which he knew how to tame, he would never have arrived at a technology which now allows him to do without these very animals. The words 'Der Mohr hat seine Schuldigkeit getan, er kann gehen' (The Moor has done his duty, he may go) has [sic] unfortunately too deep a meaning

Adolf Hitler

:crapet

[skillet]

I have a copy and have read Mein Kampf a few times myself. It is a very informative book. However his writing style was not to my liking. He wrote it almost like he was writing a tabloid piece, rambling sentences and over sensationalism. Very strange sentence structure.

I'm just guessing here, but I wonder if it is something in the translation from the original German, into English. Although, based on one of your previous signatures, Blackmetal, you're multi-lingual and may have even read it in the original German. The German syntax and grammatical structure are hard to follow.

[blackmetal84]

I'm just guessing here, but I wonder if it is something in the translation from the original German, into English. Although, based on one of your previous signatures, Blackmetal, you're multi-lingual and may have even read it in the original German. The German syntax and grammatical structure are hard to follow.

As for languages, I am jack-of-all-trades, master of none :lol I have what is supposed to be the best translation of Mein Kampf.

[Massa Charlie]

I think Mein Kampf is rocky reading because Hitler was attempting to write above his educational level. He was passionate, to be sure, but his sentence structure was all over the fucking map, as was his grammar — the result was an awkward piece of writing. As a passionate man, Hitler knew how to start things, but he wasn't so hot on finishing them. You can see that unfortunate failing repeated throughout his life, from his early schooling through his final days. I can definitely relate.

:hnk

[103rapesAday]

No, do not be alarmed. No anti-semitic rants are forthcoming! But having read the book at least a dozen times, it is shocking how relevant and even prophetic much of it is. The main body of the book is what led up to WW 1. Very political and almost hard to read unless you have a strong grasp of graduate-school level writing.

But aside from those passages that some find offensive, it is eerily applicable to todays political and social climate. Time and time again as I have read through it I had to stop and say "Wow.", because much of it is so relevant and in tune with the early 21st century that it may have been written last week, rather than 80 years ago.

Some may think it boring and dull to read about the political atmosphere of Europe from the 1890's to 1925, but honestly, history really does repeat itself and the book, if not respected because of it's author, is still a fascinating and dead-on analysis of sociology and the mass media. Nothing much changes it seems. I think that in order for us to understand the present and why things are so terribly fucked up, we must first have a firm grasp of the past.

Everything leads to something else. We have reached the present state of affairs due to the events of the past. A lot of folks here seem to have the same basic question: "What the fuck is going on and how did things get so messed up?" Study the past. We didn't just magically appear in the year 2008 with no past behind us. Read all you can by all the great thinkers.

Also, don't be afraid to question everything. Especially these days. Communism is anathema to me- I hate that ideology like I hate cancer or the plague- so I made myself study it and read the works of all of it's greatest proponents- Marx, Trotsky, Lenin, etc...

All through high school and especially college we are force fed one view- all others are shunned. Fuck that noise! Educate yourselves and study the past intensely. Never believe a word your government or the media tells you. They are all liars and have an agenda. The last thing the government wants is intelligent, well informed individuals who think for themselves. They want obedient workers- useful idiots in other words.

Start with the Greeks, like Plato. Read Spengler, Lane, The Federalist Papers, all of Jefferson's writings. Might is Right by Ragnar Redbeard,(may perhaps be Jack London's pen name) The best thing to do- Read the Communist Manifesto and then immediately read Mein Kampf, followed by the Federalist Papers by Jay, Hamilton and Madison.

Educate yourselves! A sharp and educated mind capable of critical thinking and independant thought is dangerous- and far more useful than any gun or sword.

I think what plagued Hitler was that as an idealist his views were shaped from his artistic background (too abstract) instead of greater practicality if he were say for example a scientist or engineer (ie a linear thinker). I always thought if he made certain decisions at certain time how much better the world would have been and different it would be. I think this is why he could inspire, he could give a person a vision/purpose, but it seems some of his decisions were almost an impulse.

I wish I could develop a time machine and put myself in place as an adviser, I would have made a political issue of Britain and France declaring war on Germany but not on Russia (I would also try to get Russia to declare war on those other two), I would have declared war on Japan for the attack on Pearl Harbor or at least condemn it harshly to keep America out of my affairs in Europe, and if everything else pretty much happened the same I would have integrated the Ukrainians who thought they were liberated to help fight Russia in the least. Each of these actions I thought were logical and straight forward at the time, I wonder how much better the world would have become if this happened?

[White_Rage]

All very well said. The man was a visionary, and his logic and observations are discounted because of who he was. I found my ears burning and pulse quicken as I read it years ago. What we need now, is a new Hitler, one who will focus exclusively on the negro. I won't even argue against his assessments about the Masonic lodges and Jews. If I were a Jew, I'd probably be offended. What we all need to come to is the realization that civilized people all have a right to occupy their own respective indigenous domains, and exclude those that they wish. I find it pretty simple. In a strange way- we need some uncomfortable alliances to rid all of our respective lands of the nigger beast. The rest of the struggles thereafter will easily work itself out. As intelligent peoples, we all must come up with a plan that lures every single ape, from every corner of the globe, back to Africa. We may even have to pay for it- but aren't we paying a worse fee now? :jerk

[SGT. SHLITZ]

I had trouble understanding the book as well. (The odd grammar may be the result of the German to English translation. Read other translated books like The Little Prince or The Stranger and you'll have a similar experience.) Read The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich by William Shirer first to get an accurate historical background to Mein Kampf.

[Massa Charlie]

Read The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich by William Shirer first to get an accurate historical background to Mein Kampf.

Yeah, I've read that one repeatedly since 1977. Good book, fairly objective but not pro-Hitler, of course.

:hnk

[Odin88]

Absolutely. Shirer's book is fantastic. I did a report on it when I was in the 8th grade and got an "A". It is fair and objective. If any of you care to read Mein Kampf, please buy it from our bookstore and avoid the Abraham Foxman introfuction found in most copies. We sell the Manheim translation, sans Foxman's verbal vomit.

Blackmetal is correct in a sense, the sentence stuctures seem poor and awkward, but that is only due to translational difficulties. If you can read High German check it out in it's original tongue. It is much more coherant and not as "clumsy" as the English version. My copy is the 1939 edition- the first ever American version published by Houghton-Mifflin. I bought it for $70 at used book store. It was on the shelf right next to the Communist Manifesto. Of course, that is a whole other story by itself, which I think I will post here eventually. You guys will get a kick out of it.

[blackmetal84]

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