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Dirtydan
05-28-2008, 04:36 PM
As a student of the civil war, I have read many books and articles on the subject. From the the beginning to the end, not just militarily, but more so to it's impact on America and on it's people, the American Civil War defined us and decided what type of country we were going to be. The Revolution did what it did by way of independance, but the civil war showed what direction we
were going to go.
One topic that always comes to discussion, is the cause of the war. From the time we were all in school, we have always been taught in history class the war was fought over the issue of slavery. Well, I am here to tell you that is not true and this is nothing more than propaganda.
The American Civil War was not about slavery, especially to the men who fought in it. The war was about "rights" and the freedom of the independant states to self-govern themselves. Slavery was one of the causes, but not the sole cause as we have been led to believe. Leading up to the war. many other issues such as the willfull coercion by the largly industrial North towards the agricultural based Southern States and several economic differences created resentment and mistrust between North and South.
Now enters the abolitionist, who on behalf of the slave invites them to revolt against their masters and earn their freedom. The Southerners, fearing the anti- slave North will insite slaves to murder them in their beds, draws further and further away from the 'Union of States'. With the election of Lincoln, the Southern States feel the threat of losing their rights and property and begin, one by one, to succeed from the Union.
Lincoln, who is willing to do anything it takes to keep the country together, sends troops to invade the cotton states to stop this rebellion.
As any American would feel about this great land of ours, the Southerners
looked upon this as an invaision onto their sacred soil by a tryranical government, and thus with the raising of militias begins the war.
Americans must remember, Lincolns "Emancipation Proclamation" was
a political tool to keep France and England from comming into the war on the side of the South (Cotton). Since these countries had a interest in the cotton, they came very close to recognizing the Confederacy as an independant country. Now, with the abolition of slavery, these countries did not, as slavery had been outlawed in both governments for many years.

With a Southern defeat, the result of the war was the triumph of government, banks, corporations, special interests, and of course, everyones friend, the nigger.



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CoonTownYT
05-28-2008, 04:43 PM
Thanks Dan, everyone needs a real history lesson every now and again.

Niggers think everything that has to do with anything is about them.

Justin Igger
05-28-2008, 06:16 PM
I just wish we had done the right thing and shipped them ALL to Liberia when we had the chance.

Imagine how far along this country would be if that simple step had been taken.

skillet
05-29-2008, 04:01 PM
Excellent post, Dirtydan. I too have loved learning about the Civil War, my great, great, great great grandfather fought in it; enlisted on the Union side.

The stage was set for that war probably when our country was founded, in fact. I often wonder what would have happened if: 1. Lincoln had never been assassinated, 2. If the Confederacy had persevered, and 3. If we had adopted the British approach and utilized convicts instead of slaves to work the plantations.

Definitely food for thought. By the way, I highly recommend James L. Swanson's book about the hunt for Booth, "Manhunt', if you haven't read it already. Very well-researched.

Had enought
05-31-2008, 05:15 PM
Great post.

I was born Yankee, but rebel by birth. Yes I know that is an old statement, but age does not change its meaning.

I have a lot of friends that are Southern born and I agree with what they call the civil war.
***********The war of northern aggression*****

I often wonder how much better things would be if the South had won.
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Orion Quest
06-01-2008, 02:45 PM
I am a total Yankee and knowing what I know about niggers I still would have fought on the side of the Union. There was many reasons why the Yankee volunteered to fight the South. One of the main reasons, and my reason would have been that the South had all become a monarchy without the final step of actually crowning a king. The plantation owners were like dukes and earls. I really believe that the South, even though they were for state's rights and claimed the mantle of Patrick Henry had veered from the vision of the founding fathers. To the South's defense though, Lincoln shouldn't have invaded so quickly. If you look at what a lot of people like General Jackson said,they said that if negotiation and a a harder look at the common grievances the South had towards the North then a different set of circumstances could have been. I think it was a war of misunderstanding too. The North didn't want to abolish states rights, just keep the Union. The Northern Media did a lot to irritate the problem by advertising to the world how horrible the south was for slavery. The northern industrialists wanted to make sure THEY got the cotton and not Europe. To get a really good view of the way that the Southerner thought in those days read "A defense of Virginia and the South" by R.L. Dabney. He was a Virginia preacher.