J.R.R.Tolkien

[groidavoid]

I have really enjoyed reading his novels set in Middle Earth over the years, first started out as a teenager, and back then I always thought his references to "Black Numenorians" were references to the shitskins. It was only later after getting further into his works that I realized he was refering to their acceptance of evil....still I have always wondered if he was a closet niggermaniac? Any thoughts on this? If you consider his description of the Orcs and their behavior, he might as well have been describing the nigs-so much so that sometimes I refer to them as Orcs-I guess that would make fellow apes Jesse Jackscoon, Al Sharpscoon, and even Oboona come across as the Nazgul!:lol

[Berrith]

YES! That was always exactly what they reminded me of! Niggers... big ugly grimy sickening niggers. Only one thing though... I find them to be smarter than niggers.

-Ber

[Maleficarum]

I've read most of his stuff and enjoyed every page. Another author who writes in the classic fantasy style is David Eddings, I've read all of his books twice over, highly recommended! R.A. Salvatore is also well worth a look.

[ANH]

I just re read the trilogy a few months ago, and I've always pictured the Orcs as nigger like beings too. Maybe Obongo is Sauron. Or more likely, Gollum to George Soros' Sauron.

[nocturnal]

The orcs reminded me of niggers when I read the trilogy when I was 12. Tolkien was British, and I believe that a good portion of Brits always have and always will hate the nigger beasts. Orcs even closely resembled niggers in the films, but since no nigger has an attention span of more than 30 seconds, they didn't see it and chimp out about it.

I am very proud of what I refer to as my dork stamp, as opposed to the traditional tramp stamp. I have the inscription from The One Ring tattooed between my shoulder blades. :rock
I'll have to have blackmetal84 take a picture of it so I can post it.

[Gallóglaigh]

There were some minor chimp outs over the LoTR films.

Classic niggerwhine:

They were whining that Peter Jackson filmed all the movies back to back so no "advocacy group" would notice there were no niggers in the films and force him to portray hip-hobbits lounging in the shire huffing jenkem and rapping. They were also chimping out because they thought the Orcs symbolized niggers.

I agree... Orcs are a good portrayal of niggers. My brother and I have used "orc" as one of our code words for "nigger" for the last few years because of it.

I've read Jackson is going to make The Hobbit. I hope he stays true to the human race and doesnt cast any niggers in it, but I'll be ok with niggers in the roles of monsters. :lol

[Overdose]

good books, I read them all about a decade ago...if you like high fantasy might I suggest George R.R. Martin, Glen Cook or Brian Ruckley - all top notch.

[Kradmelder]

Tolkien spent a lot of time back peddeling on the subject of race. A lot of excuses to explain that he was never a racist. But his books are entirely about race. Race and lineage are some of the main subjects in his books.
He had to make excuses why the orcs did not represent niggers. But he was born and spent his first few years as a little boy in Blomfontain South Africa. Surely he must have picked up the fear and dread of the all too real frightening cannibal savages that threaten all white South Africans. No matter how much he denied it, it was still there. Tolkien was not an idiot, he was a genius, and even a dull child can pick up the evil vibes of the antichrist nigger beast. He spent his first three years in justified fear of real life boogey men:trll that would eat him:lobster.

[nocturnal]

I've read Jackson is going to make The Hobbit. I hope he stays true to the human race and doesnt cast any niggers in it, but I'll be ok with niggers in the roles of monsters. :lol

I could not agree more. The Hobbit is one of my favorite books of all time, even more so than the trilogy, and I want no niggers fouling up a film version....regardless of how well the film turns out.

[KaffirSmasher]

I'm sure he did harbor some anti-nigger sentiment despite himself, and had he remained alive till today, it would have only grown.

I mean, come on, Tolkien's life work was the spread of Anglo-Saxon culture and mythology - with niggers today well on their way to turning "British" culture into another "melting pot" of cRap and TNB, his work and their behavior would've been directly antagonistic.

[Miss Ann]

The Hobbit was one of my first books as a kid and I really enjoyed it. When I tried tapping into the lord of the rings, I found it too confusing (and still do). The movies were entertaining. No niggers unless you count the orcs is fine with me.

[McCauley]

I went to high school when these films were coming out and the niggers definitely whined about the films being racist there. These vile nigger orcs just want to ruin everything.

[kneegrowhaytore]

This is weird, because earlier today I was thinking of starting a LOTR thread but someone beat me to it. Hee-hee. I am a huge LOTR nerd and I love both the books and the movie, even though Jackson changed a lot of the story to make the films. Like the rest of you, I am glad that Jackson didn't find a way to make one or more of the characters a nigger. That would have totally diluted the movies even more than they already were and would have completely ruined their credibility.

The Hobbit is now in pre-production with Jackson as the producer and Del Toro as the director. I pray to God that they don't capitulate to the nigger whining and find a way to cast a nigger as one or more of the characters. That would totally piss me off. I'd still go see the movie but it would be with some regret. Laters,

Ken

[Kradmelder]

I am a big Tolkien fan. I have read...
The Hobbit
The Lord of the Rings
Farmer Giles of Ham and Smith of Wotten Major
Unfinished Tales
Lost Tales I
Lost Tales II
The Silmarillion
Children of Hurin

I am now rereading The Silmarillion.:unjack

[umberto]

I am now rereading The Silmarillion.:unjack

Tough read.

Damn near just this side of "The Faerie Queen"

I always thought Tolkien patterned the orcs after niggers. The speech patterns fit, and Tolkien was also one of the greatest linguists ever.

[SST]

I first read LOTR at about age 13. For many years I would go back and read them again about once a year. After the movies, I kind of got burned out, and have not read them since then. The closest I can see niggers are the orcs, and Tolkien described the southerners as dark of complexion. I was thrilled that there were no niggers in the movies, because there were no niggers in the books.

I can imagine that niggers will be demanding recognition in the Hobbit movie. "We be Hobbits and sheit".

[nocturnal]

This is weird, because earlier today I was thinking of starting a LOTR thread but someone beat me to it. Hee-hee. I am a huge LOTR nerd and I love both the books and the movie, even though Jackson changed a lot of the story to make the films. Like the rest of you, I am glad that Jackson didn't find a way to make one or more of the characters a nigger. That would have totally diluted the movies even more than they already were and would have completely ruined their credibility.

The Hobbit is now in pre-production with Jackson as the producer and Del Toro as the director. I pray to God that they don't capitulate to the nigger whining and find a way to cast a nigger as one or more of the characters. That would totally piss me off. I'd still go see the movie but it would be with some regret. Laters,

Ken

Del Toro directing The Hobbit discourages me. I like Hellboy because of the comic-booky humor, but he strayed too far away from the story lines. I've also watched Pan's Labyrinth & Devil's Backbone. I love horror & fantasy, but IMO Del Toro has a tendency to take everything too far over the top. So much for my Hobbit movie.

Back on the subject of our beloved Tolkien, has anyone read Gawain the Green Knight? It's actually an ancient epic poem, from around the same era as Beowulf, translated by Tolkien. I've read some of it and then got distracted with something else & never picked it back up. I enjoyed what I did read of it, though.

[umberto]

Funny how we all arrived at the same conclusion independently. I guess some things are universal.

BTW, I reject the idea that there is "nerdy" about being a fan of Tolkien. I am a man who rides horses, own hot rods, a shitload of firearms. I can weld and can be seen routinely doing uber-manly stuff like standing on the decks of ships and on or in refinery equipment. Yet, at the same time, I can read from "Paradise Lost" or discuss the Knights Templar. To me, mental strength is as important as muscular strength. I value both. Nothing nerdy here.

There is nothing nerdy about being a fan of the greatest modern linguist and author who was a genius on the level of Jeremy Bentham or Descartes. His works are among the great achievement of English literature and Anglo culture. They represent the natural evolution of Spencer or Keats.

Think about this: Niggers hate education and make fun of knowledgeable persons. When people say you are being "nerdy" for enjoying literature, it pretty much sounds like niggerism to me. How about you?

Ridicule of the educated is just another sign of the niggerization of our culture.

[umberto]

Back on the subject of our beloved Tolkien, has anyone read Gawain the Green Knight? It's actually an ancient epic poem, from around the same era as Beowulf, translated by Tolkien.

Yep, Tolkien I think translated it to bring to light one of the very early written versions of Arthurian legend.

[Kradmelder]

There are spiritual needs that we have that are not addressed any more since our culture has become niggrified. Our churches no longer nourish us spiritually, they too have become niggrified money raising schemes and outlets for antiwhite propaganda.

Tolkien feeds our very souls.

In Middle Earth, it is OK to kill orcs on sight. No orc or troll can ever be 'elected' King of Gondor. Elves and good men are not forced to share their lands and living space with evil cannibalistic monsters. Tolkien describes the orcs and monsters as what they are, he does not try to make them into doctors and scientist the way the present media does with niggers.
The bad guys in Tolkien are tied to a single evil will. In real life niggers are also tied to the will of their lord the devil. They are not individual living beings but beasts filled with the spirit of the devil who do his will on Earth.
Most writers are soon forgotten but some endure in popularity for hundreds of years. Will Tolkien be one of these? He has only been dead for 35 years so only time will tell. All cultures have some foundation in myth. We lost much of our own myth when we became Christians long ago. Tolkien has dug up some of that myth and given it back to us in a form we can understand and relate to. It was never alien and still appeals to us. We can still build upon this myth even if it is stylized or fiction. The myth Tolkien has re-given us is better and more wholesome than any other cultures founding myth.
What kind of people do we wish to become 5000 years from now? Do we want our distant children to be vile, deranged, cannibal monsters like the orcs or the niggers?

[Gnome Sayin]

I have the extended collectors edition of the LoTR DVDs, and there's about 2 hours worth of commentary on Tolkien and why he wrote what he did. There were no comments about orcs being niggers, of course, but what they did say extensively is that Tolkien was trying to reinvent Anglo-Saxon folklore. Britain doesn't have as much of a connection to the 'olde religions' like other areas, namely Scandinavia and to a lesser extent the German speaking countries. He was trying to fill that void with all of his knowledge of Anglo-Saxon folklore.

To him it was reinventing folklore, more than just writing books.

[umberto]

The bad guys in Tolkien are tied to a single evil will. In real life niggers are also tied to the will of their lord the devil. They are not individual living beings but beasts filled with the spirit of the devil who do his will on Earth.

Damn, I think you have been drinking with H. P. Lovecraft. rolfl

The glory behind Tolkien is what he has to say about the human spirit. While surrounded by all the ancient power of the sorcerers, the elves, dwarves, etc. it falls to the ordinary humans, and among them, the weakest of them all (the halflings) to determine human destiny.

I could go on for hours about Tolkien's philosophical implications, but I think it is enough to say that he had enormous omptimism about the ability of of humans to endure, survive, and prosper despite self-destructiveness and impossible odds. This is the message and goal of our western culture. You find that repeated again and again in Western literature, all the way from the mis-translation of "thous shalt vs. thou mayest" from the hebrew bible into Latin to Star Wars. Inded, African culture is unique because it seems to be notably devoid of this heroic mythology of human transcedence and sacrifice for the sake of society.

What in nigger culture has produced a similar message? Yeah, I am pretty sure the orcs were patterned after niggers.

[Kradmelder]

Yeah, I am pretty sure the orcs were patterned after niggers.

Niggers are worse than orcs. Orcs do productive as well as destructive things.

Here is a thought I have on the origin of the orcs. It relates to wiggers...
What was Melkor in his beginning? He was an Ainur, their job was to make music. Melkor was a musician.
Melkor came into contact with some of the early elves and perverted them into orcs.
I think he did this with music.
Now back to the real world here and now.
Young people listen to this depraved rap noise and it changes them from decent human beings into vile deranged wiggers.

[umberto]

I think he did this with music.
Now back to the real world here and now.
Young people listen to this depraved rap noise and it changes them from decent human beings into vile deranged wiggers.

You mean all that shit in Mordor was thanks to Gladys Knight and the Pimps? Every generation complains about the music of the next, but I think in this case, Crap chanting has done some real societal damage.


I've also watched Pan's Labyrinth & Devil's Backbone.

I'm not into horror flicks so much, but the ghost in Devil's Backbone even scared me. If anyone out there wants to see a great Spanish horror flick, that's the one (It was co-directed by Pedro Almodovar).

I wonder if Tolkien would have the same optimisim if he saw us now?

[SelousScout]

Big LOTR fan here. I've read all of Tolkien's books. I first read the books when I was 11 or so, and I remember thinking that the orcs and goblins reminded me of black people. In other words, niggers.

I like the fact that the men, elves, and dwarves of Middle Earth kill orcs indiscriminately. I wish we in the 21st Century West had the same freedom to kill orcs (niggers). Maybe that time is coming...? One can only hope.

:chaingun

[Kradmelder]

You mean all that shit in Mordor was thanks to Gladys Knight and the Pimps? Every generation complains about the music of the next, but I think in this case, Crap chanting has done some real societal damage.


Mordor? That is much later in Middle Earth. The orcs came from Angband before the beginning of the First Age.
You have read The Silmarillion and Lost Tales, haven't you?

It took Gladys Knight and other Mowtown acts to pave the way for today's expression of nigger wickedness in noise called rap.

[groidavoid]

I never imagined that so many of you would have such deep thoughts about Tolkien and his writings. I have loved his work for years, and was really happy when I heard that the live action movies were coming out-they were for the most part very good, very true to the stories, with only minor omissions(Tom Bombadil, The Scouring of the Shire, ect.) and I'm hoping that the Hobbit movie will follow true to form. Please leave out the NIGNOGS, they have no place in Tolkien"s universe(Middle Earth must truly be a better place!). Ya'll keep those posts a coming, I am truly enjoying your thoughts on JRRT'S literary works!:clap

[Kradmelder]

Tolkien has had a big influence on me. Reading his books has helped shaped me into what I am today. I still re read his books sometimes.

[Jim Crow]

"They were whining that Peter Jackson filmed all the movies back to back so no "advocacy group" would notice there were no niggers in the films and force him to portray hip-hobbits lounging in the shire huffing jenkem and rapping."

LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL!!!!!!!!!!! STOP HURTING MY SIDES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Kradmelder]

I think it would be neat if some one made movies from "The Silmarillion". There are great stories there but not much dialog. How could it be adapted to a screen play while remaining true to Tolkien? It would also be important not to infect it with modern or PC dialog.
I saw the recent Star Wars cartoon and thought it was great (except the nigger child Jedi). I have been thinking about "The Silmarillion" in cartoon for a long time. It would not fit into one or even a few movies, some chapters could be expanded into their own movies but some others could be combined. Much had to be left out of LotR to get it into three long movies. LotR is a larger work but Silmarillion covers such a great expanse of time it would be like trying to cram all of the Old Testament into one movie. Peter Jackson could have got two or more successful movies out of LotR had he stretched it out and not left things out. But since he had three book titles to use I understand why he wouldn't want to have more than three separate films.
Silmarillion would be a monumental challenge to adapt to either cartoon or live action film but the technology now exist to attempt it. The question I see is are there enough people who would like it or have most people been so dumbed down that it would go completely over their head? The success of the LotR movies indicates that the interest in such movies is still out there. Fewer people have read Silmarillion than LotR though.
The producer would be taking a great risk, such an attempt would either make him the most renowned movie genius on Earth today or doom him to be the next Ralph Bakashi who did such a poor job in his LotR cartoon back in the 70's.